We got a response from172 females and 51 males. In order to equally celebrate Fatherhood , the males (12 years+) all get Nachos on Fathers Day (served up by the RS Presidency.). The reminder was given to visit those sisters unable to attend on Mother's Day. It isn't in every country so I don't know why it has to be in just a few. This year in our ward we are having a missionary farewell for Mothers Daynot the old kind where the new missionary and all his/her family speak, but the new kind where the new missionary will be given a topic. Ugh. iPhone. Where everyone else is happy and interested in celebrating motherhood - those terrible males and those rancorous children in particular - they need to be denied for "me" and "what I want". It would just be nice to complete our idealism with a good dose of reality. I do look forward to handing the kids over to my husband for the day, but Ill take a pass on sacrament meeting. Thats the last thing a mother needs, responsibility for yet another living thing. Gospel Q&A: Can Satan Hear Our Prayers? He chose to base his talk on To The Mothers In Zion, and used it to essentially chastise and condemn working women, and it sent half the ward fuming into the bishops office. One of my talks I focused on Moses and the 5 women at the beginning of his life and the different roles they played: Shiphrah & Puah, the midwives who saved his and countless other Hebrew boys lives, Jochebed his birthmother and what it must have taken to put him in the basket and shut the lid (shes a stronger woman than I am! Integrate how Jesus takes care of his mother's future well being while hanging on the cross with the scripture John 19:26-27. It was given by one of my high school friends. Mother's Day is a special time to say thanks to the women in your life. Not necessarily mothersjust women. What do you think when you see a used car lot with a sign like this: Honest Abes Used Cars! Honestly, considering how touchy this subject is (women w/out kids, abusive moms, separated/divorced men who don't want to be, moms who've passed, etc), I'd focus on Womanhood. I am not sure what other words I can use to convey my meaning when I rely so heavily on tone. I know I dont have any say on when the thread closes, but it would be interesting to hear feedback from how each persons respective wards handled MD, and how the people assigned to talk felt their messages were delivered and/or received. However, I am concerned about the implications of a people where the female population dislikes the concept of motherhood or at least dislikes it enough that they do not want to celebrate Mother's Day. A year later he died in a car accident, and the children went back to mom, whose life was now very different. Speechless. When mothers know who they are and who God is and have made covenants with Him, they will have great power and influence for good on their children.. Not until the 1600s did people start associating the holiday with their own actual mothers (Mothering Day in the UK). I was supposed to talk two weeks ago on the purpose of the Sacrament but ended up in surgery instead, and upon returning to church last Sunday was asked to reschedule. Christmas is not a universal holiday and thus we should not celebrate one day a year, We focus on Christ every day and every Sunday so there is no need to celebrate on Christmas. Cant we just give praise and gratitude for the atonement, and human goodness and resiliance inspite its adversity and imperfection? In Bishopric meeting this year, I quoted your little sister regarding plants. Celebrating motherhood somehow demeans mothers by making them feel guilty for not having been "good" mothers. I have some ideas of speaker topics but I thought I would start a thread for suggestions of topics, scriptures, conference talks, etc that would help make a great Sacrament Meeting that honors Motherhood while also keeping a focus on Christ. She talked about how when she was single she was very shallow, only cared about clothes and makeup and boys, didnt prepare herself spiritually, didnt have much of a testimony, and then upon marrying found herself extremely immature and woefully unprepared to be a spiritual leader in her home. Also waiting by the library's tiny window with the Dutch door was a . Just a thought. My mother was an ideal, and she is schizophrenic, couldnt cook water without burning the pan, never cleaned a thing in the house while we were children, had rebellious to some degree or another, etc. Nice post Mark, I think we do need to be careful about how we say some of the things we do in church, and elsewhere. Not a perfect example but I was striving for some other options besides stripling warriors moms. So He can be ideal AND real. Get plenty HPs and Elders. After a lot of thought and prayer I called two sisters to speak on some of the blessings and also the challenges of raising children in the gospel.
Father's Day Talk in Sacrament Meeting June 21, 2009 - Blogger Rockpond, is this separate from a Primary Program? Yeah. I wonder if a member of our bishopric reads this blog? I only mentioned Mothers Day once, and I said how much my mom hated the hypocrisy of Mothers Day, and that we should treat women right every day of the year, not give platitudes one day of the year. But as for now no praise deserved but the praze to the heavenly Father. She was a wonderful example for motherhood, womanhood, and peoplehood. Uchtdorf. Im thankful for ideals even when I dont measure up not even often let alone all the time. This blog post is the result of my musing. The best MD talk I ever heard was given by my neighbor. Ill be hiding in the clerks office. I figure maybe in the next life I will be someones Heavenly Mother. Required fields are marked *. No talk is necessary, but a simple acknowledgement of our love for all the women in our lives is nice. Last year, I gave this talk. The other auxiliaries are free to do something, its just the bishopric that doesnt. Give the gift of time. I think Ill check myself in to a nice bed and breakfast. Great post, Mark! http://mormonartist.net/2012/02/day-three-jeanna-stay/. Scriptural women are perhaps safer :-) And in our ward, the men get cans of Dads Root Beer or Sugar Daddy candies.
The Mother's Day Fiasco That Changed My Perspective on Motherhood - LDS We know very little about HM and HF really. You can guess how well that went over. . Last time I spoke on Mother's Day I was texting during my talk. I was honored to have known her, and to have been able to claim her as my own. I am a single (divorced) old man with no children. from Pres. The Barker Brothers' Projects These videos were created for Latter-day Saint parents and allies to voice their love for their LGBT brothers and sisters, sons and daughters. Still, I think the flak about Sister Becks talk is nonsense. My bishop knows where its at, and we always get Dove bars, Milk for those of unrefined taste and Dark for the rest of us. Young Latter-day Saint priesthood . My kids are too old for primary and dont go to church anyway (and my mother died when my youngest was 2 yrs old), so I have no reason to go and hear all about how perfect someone else is, or that I should have been perfect, or the lie that all of us mothers are perfect. It hurts. It makes my heart sad to see that the men arent recognized and given something however small it may be. Like many others, my wife and her mother have both always struggled with hearing sacrament meeting talks on Mothers Day. I already have felt many of the concerns expressed, and approach this assignment with fear and trembling. My oldest, the musical and noisy one, composed parodies of many favorite primary songs about a decade ago when she was under the tyranny of those zealous but misguided young mothers. #93 Ruth I agree with the chocolate, lack of talks, and the third hour refreshments! A cookie in a baggie? Should we have days for every type of individual? Id also like a break from a poem in the EFMormons which says that no painting, no book, no song penned by a mother could be as great as a worSocrates by their children in the future, so spending your time raising the next generation is the greatest thing you can do. When chocolate is handed out, our children end up begging for it but its the one day I wont share. Then she spoke with conviction about the grace of Godthe grace that helped her forgive herself for the serious problems she caused her children that could have been prevented if shed prepared herself, and the grace that helped her achieve later in life the spiritual depth she had lacked when her children were young. This ordinance is an essential part of worship and spiritual development. What does that say about the role of motherhood? The answer has been taught by the Lords prophets.
Sacrament - LDS Living Some of the stories were simple acts of kindness and some were extraordinary examples of love and sacrifice. Why in the church is there such a strong, almost secular aversion to motherhood? They really did. However, Uchtdorf also gets women and articulates that better than most. Personally, I go to church to learn about Jesus and Christ like attributes. I dont want to hear Sister Becks controversial mothers who know talk, or president bensons talk come home talk. I wonder if this phenomenon is uniquely Mormon. Book of Mormon Scriptures on Mothers. This is Elder Hollands second appearance on this list of LDS talks on motherhood. I believe it is by divine design that the role of motherhood emphasizes the nurturing and teaching of the next generation.. So Im on for Mothers Day and have been assigned Julie Becks talk on the history of Relief Society as topic. My wife and I were not in his ward to hear the talk, but he told us about it later.
The Bishopric's Guide to Mother's Day at Church I went to Sac. I found out the hard way after a long list of them declined to give the talk. No love in mortality comes closer to approximating the pure love of Jesus Christ than the selfless love a devoted mother has for her child.. After the explanation, both seemed excited and accepted the challenge willingly. Most of us brought up to beleive that the man of the home was were it was at. Then the clincher, it is only for women to celebrate and they need to be left alone to celebrate it as they demand and see fit. Or should we just not celebrate anything or any role that a person may fulfill in life? How can a father raise a happy, well-adjusted daughter in todays increasingly toxic world? Many said not to assignmother or female focused messages in sacrament meeting, others said to keep your effortssimple as long as it is sincere. The Spirits constant companionship is one of the greatest gifts of mortality. I love her and think she did a great job with the limited resources she had. Or better yet, teach their classes and let them attend RS for a day? Can anyone say overdone? Every year someone has to pick up the flowers for my ward. Ere the sun goes down. Less than nothing because the message of such a gift is that the person is not important. Trust her. Oh, we also get candy bars with the flowers, music in sacrament and the 3rd hour social time. I mean big ol gnarly wretch. At the end of the survey there was a comments box where individuals could leave specific feedback to bishoprics that organize Mothers Day. All my daily tasks fulfilling, Use Mothers Day as an example of how a saint can use a tradition of men as an acceptable way to express Gods love and promulgate the Gospel. I also have plenty of friends who are single sisters and they mourn growing older and menopause because they wont be able to have the children they want to hold and love. I would be all for that. It is as if we cannot celebrate anything because if we focus on single day to celebrate one person then we have decimated everyone else. If So, Should We Pray Out Loud? Why Women, Especially Mothers, Working Outside the Home is an Abomination Unto the Lord. If they give out a plant that I can put in the ground, Ill be sad to miss that, though. I actually feel it is not so dissimilar on fathers day, particularly since the disparity between them can demean men. Do you also not need an idea such as the Savior, your Father in Heaven or your Heavenly Mother? Special celebrations can and should be held at home within the family. I'd suggest that women at various stages in their lives speaking about what the joy in womanhood, being a divine daughter of God means to them in different stages of life, would at least eliminate all that talk and honor of mothers who have lots of children and do everything right that cause so much pain to women everywhere. I didnt realize Mothers Day was so close. iPad. Alece 100 it is a bit rich for you to interpret that your comment and that quote by Lewis mean the same thing. So our ward did 3 talks on Christ with each one saying one sentence of gratitude about their individual moms right before bearing their testimony. *As I type this, I know for a fact that someone out there is going to respond that their ward gives men plants for Fathers Day every year. Put me in the column of those who think Sacrament Meeting should be about Christ. on Mothers Day and donate it to a womens shelter. I just dont like when they push the plant on me after Ive politely declined it. I am aware of a seminary/institute teacher who is apparently of the firm and unshakeable belief that a pile of pizza must be provided each week without fail. On Sunday Morning my sister and I drove almost 2 hours each way to go visit my maternal grandmothers grave. This talk by Sheri Dew focuses on how motherhood is for all women, regardless if they have children or not. I am the wife of a bishopric member, and I used to love Mothers Day.
mothers day Archives - LDS Daily Why? Further, that it wasnt the wards responsibility to celebrate the day. I also choose to focus on the women in the scriptures like #30 has mentioned.
The Mother's Day Talk PSA - By Common Consent, a Mormon Blog Sabbath Day Scriptures Scripture References Doctrine and Covenants 59:9-12 Scripture Study Resources Topical Guide, "Assembly for Worship" Aim at heaven and you will get earth thrown in. Members have now learned to accept it. In the UK, my experience has been that sacrament has at least one talk and often a few. I cant remember the last time I heard a bad sacrament meeting talk, period. It seems like every time theres a church scandaland especially one that concerns moneypeople start arguing that the scandal-ridden church (or even churches in general) should lose their tax exemptions. #109 Rayloved the roller coaster quote on motherhood. Have all the talks be by women. Along with activities and programs during the week, Latter-day Saints gather on Sundays for an approximately hour-long "sacrament" meeting, where men, women and younger members offer prayers and give sermons, sing hymns and partake of the sacrament (similar to receiving communion). The first speaker was my favorite. So, just an FYI to the LDS people here Non-denominational Christian churches focus EVERY day (especially Sunday) on God/Jesus Christ Generally the take home message (this would apply to mothers day s well) is that we are human so we are sinners and if we accept Jesus Christ as our savior then we can hand him our trials (very difficult to do) but when we dont and we are struggling He still loves us. And Im batting clean up. The bad ones tend to deal withthe big generalities, praisingmotherhood without even pausing to define whether we are speaking of women who have given birth, or womanhood in general. Nourishing their souls instead of feeding their bodies? 3. He also discussed the importance of placing motherhood first in our lives but not allowing the pressures of motherhood to sap us of joy. Measure your words with that assumption in mind. Part of this ordinance is a promise to remember Him always and a witness of individual willingness to take upon oneself the name of Jesus Christ and to keep His commandments. The first speaker was a single father, then the bishop spoke, then the stake president spoke. It might be that it was a holiday originally conceived by the US Socialist Party and propagated by the Soviets. According to our teachings, Jesus the Messiah wasnt just sinless, He was God. 1) Peanut butter sandwiches served with a smile tastes much better than the fanciest meal served with a side of stress. She told us that as a girl, she would sit in her room crying, with big welts on the back of her hands, but now that she was grown up, she understood why her mother did it, and she was grateful, by golly. Kind of it takes a village/ward to raise a child philosophy. I would say that my grandmother was like a second mother to us, but really she was like a first mother. Our current Bishop decided not to do anything for mothers day. JUST kidding. Gospel Q&A: I Feel Guilty That I Cant Fast Because of Medical Reasons. This has been a big concern for me, as there are many women in the ward who are very sensitive to the Perfect Mother talks, and I didnt want to heap on to their burdens. Please add to the possibility of what LDS women are dealing with: they didnt have the best mothers themselves, they are the adoptive parents of mothers who, for whatever reason couldnt be a mothers, (adoptees and foster children or adults that have been in foster care could be particularly vulnerable as well); they work outside the home and love it, they work outside the home and hate it, they cant stand being mothers, the list could go on and on. could have had us all come to earth as adults, but instead we came as infants needing 24 hour care to survive; there must be something we need to learn from being dependent on parents, and 4) share some motherhood quotes. Just asking. Many times, it seems bishoprics want to put women on a pedestal for a day, while trying not to offend anyone. He also shares ways a mother can become the first line of defense against the wiles of the world., RELATED: 30 Inspiring LDS Quotes About Mothers & Motherhood.
LDS Sacrament Meeting Talks - 34 Ideas - Nat Harward Find another way to show appreciation to Mothers! EOR, I would venture to say, even with being fairly new to BCC that few here mean to give offense. We got there at about 7:30 AM and one of my Aunts had already been there and left flowers for her. I know they happened fairly regularly in my own adolesence and early adulthood, but I cant remember one Ive heard personally in quite a while. rockpond Just pass out the chocolates and let all the women go to a park where buckets of KFC, potato salad and slaw are in abundance and/or veggie pizza and cheesecake. (If you want to see an example, search mormon tax exemption on Twitter.) Why are women so disenchanted with motherhood when we value it so highly? 10 years after my first child was born, I still detest Mothers Day.
The Best Ward Mother's Day Gift - Leading Saints anon, pretty sure hearing about an old guys non-existent sex life is worse.