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Jupiter Rx in the 7th in Leo. The composite chart is probably the best known. And here is why: my sun, mercury and venus and chiron is in th e 12th natal house. how this would manifest? Our midpoint composit cannot show any true about our relationship. How does the 12th manifest when the planet is also conjunct the Asc? The 12th House is also known as the House of mystery while Venus symbolizes intuition and artful . Here Black Moon Lilith is squaring both Venus/Mars (12th house) and the Moon (6th house) - both the most difficult houses in the composite chart, indicating an unequal partnership. You might have a relationship that was so intense, which left you hurting. In composite, we have sun, mercury and part of fortune in the 12th. Im trying to determine the karmic lessons we need to learn from this. My natal chart ruler is the Moon and his natal chart ruler is Mars. Mars & NNode in Cancer/10th. hi dawn Looking at the chart, it seems to be propelling us into Aquarius, and Aquarian age type of love. It has been a very long journey! I still could love this man with his faults which I know he has but he is so caring and nice. Oh the powers of the 12th house. We have Uranus, Mercury, Neptune, Saturn, North Node, Sun in the 12th. I still feel a strong connection to him, but in a way, I guess I have come to reasonable terms with not being with him. Lilith in the 12th House is an unusual placement because it revolves around the dark side of your life and its unseen parts. (I have never done anything like that with anyone else.) The 12th house conjunction in Cancer indicates that there is a nurturing issue between you that needs resolving. It was helpful all of your comments about the rest of composite houses and I say Thank you again for this Im from a country in southamerica. We become real magicians if we can tap into it. Twelfth house composites can work very well if the people involved understand that they must work together and make a contribution of some kind, even to simply show a good example of what a couple can be. We also have composite venus in the 12th house. Because of the sensitivity of house cusps, I recommend using the Koch house system . It doesnt matter. I have to come to grips with it (what you said) altough it is not an easy thing for me when it comes to love (being an Aries lol I want to love with a passion and not just except it as an idea). I am so sad because I would have never meet him IF my husband and this man, and his wife would not become friends with him in church, ( I did not go to church for a while so I would not meet them!) We are both married similar age kids. The only way that you can figure out the main issue of karma in a relationship is to examine the nature of both Nodes and their rulers in the Composite, along with aspects to the Nodes. Natal Birth Chart Meaning. Look at poor Kurt Cobain, who is the poster boy for this aspect. They might be very sneaky and test people a lot. He is my best friend but marriage to him has been so disappointing because theres not much difference between now and when I was single. and he JUST asked me to lunch yesterday. It was a complicated, intense, spicy hot love affair that changed both of our lives. (anyone who has ever fallen in love and had planets with that person in 12th composite will know..). November 9, 2012 astrologyanonymous27. Aquarius rising at 29 degrees. That was over three years ago. HI, Sign up here if you would like to know when Dawn's Foundations e*book will be made available, The Composite Chart and the 12th House: The Ghost at the Door. Please enlighten me.. Usually, when the 12th house is heavily involved, whether it be a natal chart, a comparison, or a composite, the message is to let go. I need help! With Libra in 12th House, your past life may not be that pleasant. I just am hesitating. As a 12th house person, I finally realized I enjoy the confusion. The lower expression has to be elevated, and the higher expression needs to be realized. We have a composite 12th house sun mars and venus in Cancer! The point is not that the telepathy is an illusion, the point is that its real, but it doesnt matter. I would need a full synastry to really answer your question. sorry Ive made an error : it is not his descendant point, it is his IC point. As Jeff Buckley puts it, hes a tear that hangs inside my soul forever. Thrown/compelled into a private relationship that feels confusing and unavoidable at the same time. venus all in the 12th house. Yes its probably the case, but as it is unconscious, how could I manage it , or prevent myself from feeling this ? When the transit Moon is in the composite 12th house, you may want some alone time together, wanting to share feelings but only when alone and no one else is around. Of course, this can lead to overspending and a tendency to overvalue anything that is overindulgent and impractical, but the positive energy Jupiter brings will generally get you through it. WhiteLotus. I like to think of Pluto more in terms of the battle between the ego and the soul. WhiteLotus. And it KILLS ME! However, Sag and Cap are very, very different from one another and the things that make you feel secure, comforted and appreciated will be very different, unless other things in the chart back them up. . 12th House seems to be the most frightening of all the houses to me, because the primal urge towards each other is such a deep and profoundly spiritual one, that you think, theres no way I could find this depth with another. But thank you for helping me face reality. This secrecy he is practising probably points to the venus-mars in composite twelfth ? Whitelotus. We are ignoring what the Source is asking us to do. VERY-VERY SORRY! We have had such a difficult relationship. My nn is conjunct his sun and mercury. . (Were married 16 years, and now we are old!) Im always attracted to those types of relationships Hes Gemini sun . You are great!!!!!!!!!!! This is where our own shadow meets the shadow of the collective. Im afraid I cant get into it in this space (in the synastry course, we spend several lessons comparing the midpoint and Davison charts). The relationship only lasted a few months but for some reason it has left a deep-seated, soul-touching impression with me. Unfortunately, the 12th House is one of the hardest places for Lilith to be. I met this men who i recall seeing 20 years ago once and a couple of other times within that 20 years. It also governs much, much more, however. Although Im aware this is only an illusion of my mind and nothing else , this illusion is so strong and so frequent that I ve at least learned to live with it and Ive given up struggling against it. When Venus occupies the 12th house, it highlights a more mature and sophisticated expression of love. We talk with each other and I know he loved me and still does like me , we talk in the church when we can but none of us really telling the real story (which is so 12 house thing). Hi annaMy feeling is that the word god is loaded, psychologically speaking. Is Your experience the same? The 12th house is always complex and is different in how it manifests depending on the contacts involved. If you have Lilith in the 12 th house of your chart, her themes will manifest in terms of isolation, the shadow, and limitation. Lilith in the 12th house are really good at hiding their "lilith" nature and because of this they are usually popular. The twelfth house is associated with hidden emotions, and Lilith's influence adds an extra layer of complexity to this placement. We see each other regularly in our spiritual activities, and yet live on opposite coasts, and though dedicated to each other 100% as spiritual allies (and possibly more), we have no intentions of giving up our day-to-day independence. We feel that very beautiful in our life! This man can be my everything and this feeling will not change. We had an instant connection, and I ended up in his apartment the first night we met. He told me he had butterflies I did too.his nn is conjunct my ascendant. He told me that had never happened to him before (referring to how we couldnt control ourselves). We have the ultimate intimacy side by side with the knowledge of ultimate separateness. The higher powers are always tapping at the door, insisting on change, cleansing, and renewal from within (Pluto/Uranus in Virgo), but how do you do that if your connection to the other world and the higher powers are full of fear and resistant to the necessary dissolving that must occur (Saturn in Pisces). When we split up I cried every day for a month. I know he is devoted to his son more maybe than to his wife but he cares about him as well because he is a very nice man. what kind of compassion do you think can be generated from a composite mars in 12th house? Illusions yes I know. P.S. Its pretty rare. Learn More. How that manifests depends on other aspects. Its hard for me to stop dreaming about this person. hi dawn. Synastries (especially composite charts) are complicated and if confused (or you feel threatened) you should consult a professional. We were happy plutonicay together. Please forgive me, there are much to read and ask, Your inputs will be very much appreciated. Eventually, some of their views may clash and this can . what do you think it means to have such much weight in the 1st and 12th houses? Mars in the 12th can mean unconscious eroticism, aggression, or desire. The composite chart with the man Im involved with has an extremely tight Moon/Mars conjunction in the 12th, along with the North Node. Thank you in advance. In our synastry chart, we also have exact Chiron/Venus opposition. Saturn is the heaviest aspected planet in this composite, which actually reinforces the intensity of the Moon/Saturn-opposite theme from synastry. We have an interesting stellium in the 6th Uranus, Eros, Ceres, and Vertex all within a degree of each other. I have my sun in the 12th house of my natal chart, and we both have venus in the 12th house of our natal charts. Great gifts are possible if that Saturn is respectedthe power of manifesting energy into form. I met her near the end of my Saturn return (Cancer in the 4th house) and I am aware of deep wounds in me around my need for nurturing and I wonder if my neediness in this area may have something to do with it all. You need a synastry reading to make sense of all this. But, separate he has a Saturn Gemini 12th and I have a Mercury Scorpio 12th. Mine is conjunct with his moon. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Loving and letting go, as well as maturing your love into a transcendant form of love where you are able to love so deeply that you give it the potential to annihilate you, yet you learn to let go and allow the natural changes in the state of our being has been a reoccurring theme of my life. Indeed, I felt the fear trampling along the edge with fear of insecurity. Ultimately, both the 12th house and Neptune want us to get our egos out of the way. It often helps to work together on projects they find meaningful, or to spend some time doing community or charity work. Also, forgive my double Virgo and the fact that I was once an editor: the phrase is unrequited love not unrequired. Sorry. His natal Venus in cancer is in my 12house. He eventually ended it because he was afraid wed go into a dark place with each other again- our relationship was very intense, and my insecurities and control issues combined with his youthful sloppiness are what destroyed it. Yes There is a higher purpose to these relationships. A Venus/Mars conjunction in Taurus can be a beautiful thing. They represent different aspects of a relationship. Also, I would think that the answer to your issues is not in the composite, but in your natal comparison. This last chance element, sadly, often leads us to relationships that are destined to exist only to fix this thingwhen the lesson is learned, both these people move on. And what does it mean our 12th. But I do have one question? He just wanted to keep it physical until one of us gets married with someone else. Dear Dawn, thank you for this amazing article. We fall, and find the world. We are each in our mid 60she never married, and I (a widow) married 25 yearsto a Pisces. It is commonly thought that the Moon governs emotions and intuition, and it does. Thank you, Tricia. The inner planets are where we liveso yes, the 10th house stellium will have more influence on a day to day basis, and then once in a while the outer planets will come out to grab us with whatever their issues are, particularly by transit or progression to the stellium/12th. I have a nice syntrastry with my boyfriend (im born 8/1/1983 and he is born 10/7/1982). It contains everything and nothing . Often, Sun/Neptune relationships just fade away or dissolve without anyone knowing why. A Venus in the 12th House man is a sweet, gentle, kind of person who likes to help both people and animals. I was with him longer than Ive ever consecutively been with someone- 1 1/2 years. In our composite chart, Mars in 12th house Cancer square MC conjunct Mercury(10th) and the Sun, Venus(9th) & Mars square IC conjunct Saturn and Pluto(3rd). A share a composite chart with a stellium of planets (Sun, Mercury, Uranus, and Neptune) in the 12th house with cusp on Scorpio. Thanks for this very interesting article about that controversial 12th house and I totally agree with your final paragraph. I feel there is no Karmic tie to this person, my intuition leans more towards twin flame type status. AT ALL. *Also in synastry- my 12th house Juno in Taurus also sits in his 12th house) "Composite Chart, Midpoint- method (2)". Sorry, aja, this is too much information to handle in this space. I have forgotten to say, as for HIS Lilith, its conjunct my Desc (orb -1) which is an interaspect I cant give meaning to, (too hard to analyse for me) but however, it also is a new lilith matter. It feels that we are very free together than alone. Noticed he has moved on and I want to let go and move on too, hoping that the story will not repeat itself again. More, we have a 5 cluster Scorpio in 9 (Moon, Venus, Neptune, Jupiter and Mercury), a composite Sun in Sag in 10, with Pluto and Uranus conjunct in 7 and unaspectted Gemini NN in 4 we also have a lot of 6/12 house contacts in synastry and 21 conjunctions (far from being easy!) Besides, his vertex conjunct with my sun and oppose w/ my moon. Black Moon Lilith in 12th house suggests an interest in the occult and esoteric teachings. The Composite Sun Through the Houses. ? With 4, 8 and 12 emphasized, youll have to deal with one another in an emotionally honest way, no matter what karma you have to work out together. Im sure your midpoint chart is valid if you had it read properly. (Note that Jupiter is the natural co-ruler of the 12th, so it will behave in a Pisces-like manner, here.) Any insight you may have would be extremely helpful, I am having difficulty understanding this 12th house energy. Hi Evelyne. The composite AC is Scorpio Pluto in 12th (only planet) and Mars in 8th. Its the last chance to get it right, and there will be a struggle to use this planets positive expression easily. On the one hand We are meant to be on the other, But if we are, why is it so hard?, When a couple has planets, or an important planet, in the 12th, it can go a couple of ways. It isnt that theyre unhappyno, they seem to go more the extreme of bliss altering with despair. But I think you can count on that Jupiter for evoking good will between you should you decide to reconcile. Lord knows I do drive myself crazy with lost love/unrequited love. We all have things we come in to this life to accomplish, achieve, or learn. The What do You think about Davison Chart? It is not so much a question of choice, more that the universe has chosen for them to be together (at least, thats what it feels like). !.the telepathy is overwhelming me. For instance I have a Composite Taurus Sun at 1-2 degrees in the 12th Conjunct Taurus Eros (also in the 12th at 4 degrees), and the Taurus Asc at 5 degrees. He says what on thinking. Just a knowing if you will. The 12th house is the house of the hidden, the subconscious, spirituality, karma, and as the last house, it governs endings. I became reacquainted with a man I grew up with. But exploring worlds during sex, soul bonding, feeling understood at a deep level, feeling at home in the spirit of the world, higher purpose together, channeling together, these are all things ive felt with my boyfriend and our 12th house energies. 13 . We feel that our twelfth house planets dont work the way our other planets do, or the way that same planet seems to behave in other peoples charts. (Or so we believe, those of us who deal in astrology.) When synastry presents itself on the Pluto/Node conjunction, the partner to the Pluto person will instigate growth, either from a negative or positive stimulus. but the rising is scorpio. They usually experience issues with drugs or alcohol. It also works the other way. taurus venus-mars conjunction in Your opinion? But venus, mars, moon and vertex in the first house in pisces. In my opinion the midpoint composite is not really true, because our midpoint chart doesnt show the very intense physical love what we live together. This depends on how well Lilith energy is being handled in the synastry and natal chart. Similarly, the 4th house is used for Gemini, and information is extracted by reading it in the Natal charts. mars is trine composite sun, pluto, uranus jupiter and neptune- but square moon saturn. Our midpoint composit cannot show any true about our relationship. I do use the Black Moon Lilith in my composites, but what she represents there is a whole article of its own. The relationship has been on & off, again and again for 28 years. More appreciative of that special melding? Please advise if we can make it to marriage or our relationship is doomed. Lovely article. When Pluto is conjunct the North Node, our mistakes can be more dramatic and our adjustments have to be greater. In contrast, couples who come together to create something for the collective often have the appropriate planets in the composite 12th, there for all to see. They might not be opposed to using under-handed tactics in order to receive information or get what they desire. Natal Sun in Gemini and Venus in Cancer in the 12th, and Venus is conjunct my Cancer ASC. The 12th house doesnt necessarily mean hidden. Its a huge task, but often one the 12th house couple is uniquely suited for. He seems very able to detach himself and move to the future. One day , you said that people telegraph their natal theme at every instant of their lives. One thing is certain, and that is planets in the 12th house dont behave like any other. They help us understand that our capacity to love is its own reward. Very exquisitely put. Thanks Dawn! I need all the help to understand I can get. Composite Sun in 1 st House. The part about unrequited love was particularly interesting and that other part might not know what we exist. My sympathies. Composite The relationship is deep and beautiful and in periods hard for us to be with each other. There are no connections with saturn to make it harsh. This house is deeply spiritual by nature, as it is a composite of all the other houses. Saturn is the heaviest aspected planet in this composite, which actually reinforces the intensity of the Moon/Saturn-opposite theme from synastry. Hi Dawn, are you able to give me anymore insight or know where I might find more information about 12th house stellium in cancer planets are sun,moon,Mercury and Venus in my husband and my composite chart. After I read and then I re-read this was the conclusion that I am more confused than before but more peaceful and more tolerant with my fate. cheers:). my davison chart has our sun, mercury and pluto in the 12. frequently i hear what he says in my head before he says it. clearly the 1st has the most planets, but you said the sun was the essence of the chart,its in scorpio in the 12 house. Another concern is his Saturn and North node in my MC/IC and my Mercury/Mar (ruler of my 7th) in his Asc. If I did not believe in Karma or Fate now I do not have ANY DOUBT that really something runs our life from out there for good or bad Transit Mercury in the Composite 12th House. Thank you for reading and I hope this story helps reveal more about the 12th house in composites. I love him more than Ive ever loved any man I knew immediately. It can also mean, in this case, unconscious elements making themselves known via the Ascendant in mysterious ways. Its part of me. 12th House Meaning. I have been so confused and you describe it so accurately. I found composite Saturn on the 12th house, trining the composite Sun/Venus/Merc on the 8th and sextile to the Moon on the 2nd. Thank you. I noticed you dont offer composite readings. And yes, with Uranus squaring, the tendency would be to want to break away rather than face what is wrong. Bright blessings to you. Thank You very much for Your answer and very best regards from Hungary again! What is the difference between Midpoint and Davison as Your opinion? Wow, everything in this article is so accurate + written so beautifully. And they might move next year to another town because of their son so I am already dying from the thought that I will not see him after that. I felt like someone kicked me out of my home. Hi Dawn. (Because the moon's orbit is elliptical, it has two center . Moon in Aries/7th, Saturn in the 5th/Aquarius. Its a bit like getting knocked off your feet by a powerful waveyou and your partner are going to have to swim in the tide for a while, and deal with whatever watery beasties swim your way. Our composite sun is in the 7 house. I had a relationship with someone, in our composite chart, we have a stellium in the 12th house Sun, Juno, Venus and Uranus. His Pluto on your Ascendant is an intense experience, but it sounds as though Neptune is the culprit as far as youre concerned. I am a Sag with moon (12th house) and rising both in scorpio. The synastry can show the true about our relationship, and the Davison also but less than synastry, but the Composite chart can show almost nothing. Who cares? Juno is not only about romantic partnerships, but has to do with equality in general. Moon and Mars both Trine Uranus. In my experience, the Davison chart reveals more of the day to day reality, and the midpoint chart reveals the inner working dynamic. When transit Mercury is in the composite 12th house, you may refrain from expressing thoughts and opinions with one another until youre alone, just the two of you, and no one else around. i imagine these aspects can point to a past life where there was dominance in the work field isuees? We challenge each other to be the best versions of ourselves. New Classes and Courses Beginning In September! He also has 12th house stellium in his own natal chart in Scorpio. I cant really comment without seeing the charts. That I could be around someone and not feel uncomfortable. Sometimes the ego gets in the way of our path, whether through fear, resistance to growth, resistance to break old habits and personal tendencies, or through a lack of interest in what is wanted of us. I cannot really make that happen now I dont know why but Im still thinking that he is my faith or not, everything is very confused. With the composite 12th house in Aries, it may be difficult at times for you to take initiative together when needed, and instead that kicks in when youre moving together subconsciously. I and my boyfriend have conjunction of mars-venus in twelfth house (taurus) closely conjuncting composite gemini ascendant. Subconciously I always looked at him for a few seconds like a magnet but did not put any thought to it. I dont quite know what it all means but I like what you wrote here and will keep it in mind for future reference: [Couples with a heavy 12th house/ 6th house polarity have to find a way to put their wisdom to some practical use. Because thats what it feels like! )~~~a reader with Sun in Neptune and Saturn and Mars both in 12th house. When transit Jupiter is in the composite 12th house, you may have more opportunities to come together behind the scenes, behind closed doors, when no one is watching, and in a professional relationship, this can be how you make lots of progress together. From what you said, it seems like perhaps these give the relationship an element of commitment, partnership, and longevity that it wouldnt otherwise have albiet in an unusual, community-oriented way. Could I ask Your opinion? In the second house of values, beware . Thank you SO very much for this post. This is an ultimate guide to Lilith in the Twelfth House of astrology! !! In my opinion the midpoint composite is not really true, because our midpoint chart doesnt show the very intense physical love what we live together.